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Host, Dr. James Dahle, is a practicing emergency physician and founder of the White Coat Investor Blog. Like the blog, the White Coat Investor Podcast, is dedicated to educating medical students, residents, physicians, dentists, and similar high-income professionals about personal finance and building wealth, so they can ultimately be their own financial advisor—or, at least know enough to not get ripped off by a financial advisor! We tackle the hard topics like the best ways to pay off student loans, how to create your own personal financial plan, retirement planning, how to save money, investing in real estate, side hustles, and how everyone can be a millionaire by living WCI principles. Learn more at http://whitecoatinvestor.com/
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Nov 30, 2023

WCI Columnist, pediatrician, and WCICON speaker, Margaret Curtis, joins Dr. Dahle today on the podcast to help answer your questions. They debate the age old questions of pay down debt vs invest as well as if it is better to rent or buy in this market. They answer a workplace 401(k) question and discuss how you know if you are getting good advice at a fair price.

Love what you hear on the podcast? Looking for more great White Coat Investor content? Head over to our YouTube channel where you can watch video recordings of our podcast, short snippets of financial tips explained succinctly by me and others, and deep dives into topics for more in depth learning. You can even learn all about real estate with webinars from our real estate partners. Check out all this and more at https://www.youtube.com/thewhitecoatinvestor. You can do this and The White Coat Investor can help.

The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors with their money since 2011. Our free financial planning resource covers a variety of topics from doctor mortgage loans and refinancing medical school loans to physician disability insurance and malpractice insurance. Learn about loan refinancing or consolidation, explore new investment strategies, and discover loan programs specifically aimed at helping doctors. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor is for you!

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Nov 27, 2023

This doc has paid off $300,000 of student loans only 2 years out of training. He put nearly half of his income towards his loans every month. Not only was he paying big bucks towards his loans but he also started his emergency fund and maxed out a 403(b), 457(b), and invested in an HSA and brokerage account. He became financially literate in med school and the rest is history! Stick around after the interview for a discussion about contribution limits for Finance 101.

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The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors with their money since 2011. Our free financial planning resource covers a variety of topics from doctor mortgage loans and refinancing medical school loans to physician disability insurance and malpractice insurance. Learn about loan refinancing or consolidation, explore new investment strategies, and discover loan programs specifically aimed at helping doctors. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor channel is for you!

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Nov 23, 2023

Today we are talking with Van Carlson of SRA 831(b) Admin all about captive insurance. We talk about who captive insurance is for, how to evaluate a good plan, how much capital a captive should have, and how to set premiums. We discuss how this can be a great risk management strategies with some tax benefits as well as how to avoid a bogus risk pool. There is a lot of great information here on a topic we were excited to learn more about.

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The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors with their money since 2011. Our free financial planning resource covers a variety of topics from doctor mortgage loans and refinancing medical school loans to physician disability insurance and malpractice insurance. Learn about loan refinancing or consolidation, explore new investment strategies, and discover loan programs specifically aimed at helping doctors. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor is for you!

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Nov 20, 2023

This family medicine doc is back to broke only 2 years out of training. When he came out of training his net worth was nearly negative $300,000! He has shown us that just chugging along on your financial goals will get you where you want to be! Saving for retirement, paying down those loans, and having a plan is all it takes. He said he expects to have his student loans paid off in about 3 years with millionaire status just a few years behind that. After the interview we will be talking about wills for finance 101.

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The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors with their money since 2011. Our free financial planning resource covers a variety of topics from doctor mortgage loans and refinancing medical school loans to physician disability insurance and malpractice insurance. Learn about loan refinancing or consolidation, explore new investment strategies, and discover loan programs specifically aimed at helping doctors. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor channel is for you!

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Nov 16, 2023

How to Surrender One of Those Nasty Indexed Universal Life Insurance Policies. Today we are answering your questions on the speakpipe. If you want your question answered leave us a message at https://whitecoatinvestor.com/speakpipe. Today we talk about 401(k)s vs. SEP IRAs, legal insurance, disability insurance, how to surrender an indexed universal life policy and more!

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The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors with their money since 2011. Our free financial planning resource covers a variety of topics from doctor mortgage loans and refinancing medical school loans to physician disability insurance and malpractice insurance. Learn about loan refinancing or consolidation, explore new investment strategies, and discover loan programs specifically aimed at helping doctors. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor is for you!

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Nov 13, 2023

This radiologist moved here from Brazil 20 years ago after completing medical school. She wanted to come on the podcast to help educate other international medical graduates about how to succeed in the US financial system. It was a steep learning curve but she wants all immigrants to know they can do this and be successful! This episode is packed full of advice and encouragement. Raquel Oliva Alencar, is an MD, PhD, and CEO and Founder of Scientia Imaging. After the podcast Dr. Dahle talks more about IMGs.

Getting quality disability and life insurance should be the first financial chore for a doctor to complete. Most docs don't have the ideal policy for their gender, specialty, state, or health status and 1 in 7 doctors get disabled at some point during their career. Because these policies can only be purchased through brokers, we have put together a list of vetted agents who are experienced with working with the specific needs of medical professionals and who have your best interest at heart. If you have questions about insurance and what kind of policies would be the best fit for you, check out our insurance recommended list at https://whitecoatinvestor.com/insurance and feel the peace of mind that comes with knowing you have the optimal policy in place.

The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors with their money since 2011. Our free financial planning resource covers a variety of topics from doctor mortgage loans and refinancing medical school loans to physician disability insurance and malpractice insurance. Learn about loan refinancing or consolidation, explore new investment strategies, and discover loan programs specifically aimed at helping doctors. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor channel is for you!

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Nov 9, 2023

Today we are talking with Dr. Stacy Taniguchi about choosing to thrive and creating a life you would want to live over and over again. Dr. Taniguchi talks about making the most of the time we have on this earth and being intentional about spending our time and money doing what we truly value. He does not like the idea of a bucket list, but prefers focusing on a Thrive LIst that helps you go about living your fullest life.

At some point in our financial lives, it will be time to buy a home. A physician mortgage can be a good vehicle for a young doctor who’s just out of school and has a more effective place to use their money than on a big down payment. These loans allow doctors to secure a mortgage with fewer restrictions and a lower down payment than a conventional mortgage. But if you’re further advanced in your career or deeper into your journey to financial freedom, buying a home with a conventional mortgage and then, later on, potentially refinancing that loan to a better rate with a shorter time frame could be a great move. Wherever you are in your financial journey, make sure you use the mortgage that will be most financially beneficial for you. Hop over to our recommended tab to learn more about all of your mortgage and refinancing options at https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/mortgage. You can do this and The White Coat Investor can help.

The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors with their money since 2011. Our free financial planning resource covers a variety of topics from doctor mortgage loans and refinancing medical school loans to physician disability insurance and malpractice insurance. Learn about loan refinancing or consolidation, explore new investment strategies, and discover loan programs specifically aimed at helping doctors. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor is for you!

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Nov 6, 2023

Today we are talking with an emergency medicine doc who became a millionaire only 2 years after training. He is the perfect example of how quickly you can get ahead financially if you educate yourself in medical school. If you can hit the ground running as soon as training is over it will make a massive impact on your nest egg. After the interview we will be talking about how to spend in retirement.

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The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors with their money since 2011. Our free financial planning resource covers a variety of topics from doctor mortgage loans and refinancing medical school loans to physician disability insurance and malpractice insurance. Learn about loan refinancing or consolidation, explore new investment strategies, and discover loan programs specifically aimed at helping doctors. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor channel is for you!

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Nov 2, 2023

Today we are answering you questions about taxes. We talk about how investing can impact taxes, how to manage estimated payments for your taxes and qualified dividends and even answer a question about tax breaks from investing in oil and gas. We also answer a few questions about asset allocation. Before we get into all of that Dr. Dahle gives his opinion on what advice Dave Ramsey should have, but didn't, give to an unmatched doc in a mountain of debt. Listen to the Dave Ramsey call here: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cx3Bntau-Au/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D 

Getting quality disability and life insurance should be the first financial chore for a doctor to complete. Most docs don't have the ideal policy for their gender, specialty, state, or health status and 1 in 7 doctors get disabled at some point during their career. Because these policies can only be purchased through brokers, we have put together a list of vetted agents who are experienced with working with the specific needs of medical professionals and who have your best interest at heart. If you have questions about insurance and what kind of policies would be the best fit for you, check out our insurance recommended list at https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/insurance and feel the peace of mind that comes with knowing you have the optimal policy in place. You can do this and The White Coat Investor can help.

The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors with their money since 2011. Our free financial planning resource covers a variety of topics from doctor mortgage loans and refinancing medical school loans to physician disability insurance and malpractice insurance. Learn about loan refinancing or consolidation, explore new investment strategies, and discover loan programs specifically aimed at helping doctors. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor is for you!

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Email from Reader:

Dear Dr. Dahle,

Thank you for all you do. 

In your recent podcast with Dr. Shteynshlyuger, I wanted to correct his statement that the AMA "will not do anything to help" regarding unfair fees for EFT payments. I am an alternate delegate to the AMA for my state. Twice a year, delegations from all 50 states, national specialty societies, and the federal health services take time away from our busy practices and families to set policy and priorities for the AMA. 

It is never accurate to say that the AMA "will not do anything to help" because the House of Delegates dictate what the AMA does. If an individual physician wants to advocate for stronger positions or a change in direction, they can bring resolutions to their state medical society or specialty society to ask their delegation to advocate their position and seek the support of other delegations.

That being said, the AMA has been fighting against these unfair practices for several years. In 2021, the AMA along with the 50 state medical associations and 40 specialty societies, sent a letter to CMS asking the Biden administration to take action on these unfair practices. 

https://searchlf.ama-assn.org/letter/documentDownload?uri=%2Funstructured%2Fbinary%2Fletter%2FLETTERS%2F2021-10-14-Sign-on-Letter-re-EFT-Fees.pdf

Furthermore, the AMA has a multitude of resources and guides on their website so that physicians and practices know their rights and how to navigate the system. 

When physicians face challenges like these, it is important for us to stick together with a unified voice. Making inaccurate remarks about our own professional organizations does not move the needle. 

 

ALEX RESPONSE

Hi XXXX,

I greatly appreciate the fact that you listened to the podcast + found a point of disagreement.  I also appreciate the time + effort delegates like you commit to running the AMA.  As you can imagine, I have put quite a few hours (and $$$) into advocacy on behalf of physicians.

I’m an AMA member as well + introduced many of the resolutions that you are alluding to.   I'm in solo private practice, and it appears that you are part of a small private practice as well.  Our interests should align.

You are correct to some extent that members write resolutions that are supposed to set policy.  In reality, things work a little differently.  Perhaps that’s one of the reasons that the AMA has a 15-20% approval rating (based on membership data). 

In fact, many AMA policies are set without resolutions. So why should one have to write a resolution to reverse such policies?   For example, the AMA decided to call virtual credit cards a “valid” payment method.  Whose bright idea is that? Valid means "legal".  Nowhere does the law say that VCCs are "legal" to use as a payment from insurance to doctors; in fact, it's the opposite. I have been fighting to get that language changed for years now -the AMA Board of Directors are well aware- nothing has been done. But here is a resolution (which should not be needed).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/123olaPrMy1yA65IG_uoC5HlIv6OjA3nE/view?usp=sharing

While the AMA management keeps writing letters, it fully knows that letters will not achieve anything. Talking to elected representatives will not achieve anything either since they have already spoken.

In fact, most recently, the AMA refused to confront the insurance lobby's attempt to “normalize” virtual credit cards.  Do you know who confronted the insurance lobby? The American Hospital Association, whose policy team is run by a former AMA employee. I got 500 physicians to write letters to counter the AMA's complicity with UnitedHealthcare/Zelis/etc.  

I hope you would be enraged if you found out what the AMA wrote:  "Need a full understanding of the financial and administrative burden impacts to physicians prior to recommending adoption" referring to the proposal of adding virtual credit cards information to a standard 835 remittance advice. See the last point on page 9 of the AMA's presentation:

https://ncvhs.hhs.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/GG-Presentation-Panel-2-AMA_Spector.pdf   

I asked the AMA to come out swinging against this proposal - instead it did the opposite; fortunately >500 physicians spoke out to "neuter' the AMA's anti-physician 'advocacy".  

If AMA representatives want to have a public discussion + defend what they do - I’m open to the idea.  

Unfortunately, I know too much and have seen how the AMA operates. I used to be a WEDI member + sat in meetings with the AMA policy VPs.   

I had to fight insurance companies + the AMA.  Pretty insane - right? An AMA VP said in a meeting (siding with insurance lobby) that insurances have a "right" to impose costs on physicians" - apparently, it's a free country!

In summary, you were fed "inaccurate" and 'false' information by the AMA management (who knows who is behind it?).  

Did the AMA leadership mention to you that AMA Insurance (offers Medicare secondary plan to retired doctors) joined with EchoHealth, which imposes fees on EFTs + sends virtual credit cards to doctors?  I had to file a complaint with CMS against AMA Insurance.  I recently heard that it's still happening.  

 I propose that the AMA starts sticking together with doctor's interests and does what I asked it to do: (1) send a letter to CMS/UHC/Cigna/BCBSA/AHIP saying that VCCs and EFT fees are "ILLEGAL" and that the AMA is revoking its prior statement that they are 'valid".  Insurance companies use the AMA's unhelpful published statements to support their "position" to extract >$10 billion / year from doctors.  "Don't look at us - AMA says it's legal."  (2) file a lawsuit against CMS for APA violations. They know what I am talking about. 

I hope I swayed your opinion a bit about the legitimacy of my criticism of the AMA's actions. Hopefully, you + the IOWA delegation will help me REFORM the AMA.

When the AMA does not perform to expectations, it's time to do a root-cause analysis of the AMA's failures to serve the interests of physicians.

Alex

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